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President Chavez is a jackbooted boor. I admire Prime Minister Zapatero for defending his predecessor against patent slander, and the King for underscoring it. Spain should be proud of them both.

OLE, Juan Carlos! Finally, someone has the courage and good sense to shut Chavez up. And no one could do it better than the king of Spain!

Pertinente actitud severa de Don Juan Carlos

Bravo Rey Juan Carlos. You made Chavez look like the demagogue he is. FUERA CHAVEZ!

What are Spanish Prime Ministers and unelected parasites doing at a Latin AMERICAN Summit?

To Jason

If you don't understand what's going on then it's best to..... well, the King's already said it. It's an Iberian - American summit. Confucious probably said best to put brain into gear before opening mouth

Pretty funny...politics at their best (or worst)... I like Zapatero's comment trying to have Chavez speak more tactfully. Chavez and tact? hmmm...

Juan Carlos...You Go Boy. Tell that idiota Chavez whats what.

Um...thanks Ed. That made me feel great.
As far as I can see, it's still called the Latin American Summit. Surely if it were a conference for 'Iberian' and American countries then the USA and Canada would be present?

look at this people they all think Hugo Chavez is such a bad person.. They don't even know how VEnezuela is developing now after we kick out every private companies in Venezuela .. Now we have to kick out those Presidents from the Universities that are protesting for no reason. ANd of course Juan Carlos is mad because Chavez told him the true in his face .. After all we will win the left wings will take after South America since know we have our own South Bank.. Ecuador, Argentina, Venezuela, Brasil, Bolivia ALl those are left wings now and fighting the imperialism and capitalism from Spain.. Juan Carlos and the Royal Family no more money for you guys that's our money our country.. This is Independence ...

Jason
Just like King Juan Carlos told Chavez: shut up!
At least show some class. El respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz. B.Juarez
I don't recall anyone telling Hugo Chavez a dictator!

Typical of the far-left and communist minds calling others fascists! When they are, as Chavez is, the embodiment of being “stupid.” Chavez is a cretin that lacks knowledge and substance of the values of life & government. He should be purged and kick out-of-office ipso facto. Who needs that kind of Leader? Those who are less than him! And who are those? Cretins like him! Redundancpar excellence!

Juan, I have twice been told to shut up on this forum and you say that it is I who should show some 'class'.
Yes Alvaro, it was all the Venezuelan cretins who re-elected Chavez at a 63% majority in 2006. He WAS kicked out of office in an undemocratic coup in 2002 but returned within 48 hours thanks to popular protest.
And what do you mean, those who are less than him? If you are referring to the poverty which is characteristic of Chavez supporters in Venezuela then you really should be ashamed of yourself.

Chavez stands up and says he has the right to say what he wants while at the time shutting down free speech in his country. What a hypocrite. The streets of Caracas are growing increasingly dangerous - thats progress? Please.

Chavez should shut up! he closed down political parties and media he didn't like . How can he call others names?

Oh I forgot! So did Aznar.

Jason-

I won't tell you to shut up, but you are looking kind of silly. It is not the Latin American summit at which these events occurred. It is the Ibero-American summit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibero-American_Summit). Spain and Portugal, geographically, are Iberia. There you go.

Jason, most of Latin America was colonized by Spain and Portugal, and those countries speak Spanish and Portugese, so the conference is a community meeting of commmon peoples so to speak. The USA is not in the Ibero sphere (we are part of the Anglo sphere) so it's not our business.

I'm pretty sure the King and the Prime Minister of Spain were invited to attend. I'm pretty sure they didn't just crash the party.

I am so glad they told Chavez to shut up! Chavez is destroying his beautiful country. It's true what they say about dictator's...they make those that are rich turn poor….and make those that are poor turn miserable.

Chavez will get his in the end. He believes he will last like Castro the Roach. People will rise up for freedom of choice. Right now his population and that of Nicaragua are being dumbed down by leaders that never passed the 2nd grade. Stupid is as stupid does.

Tropical monkey dictator: Please shut up!!!

Bien hecho tocayo!! Así es como se debe tratar a un bufón.

Yes JDO, because Communism/Socialism has been oh so successful wherever it has been tried. The biggest problem with you people is that when your system finally fails, (as it always has), it ends up usually killing a lot of people before hand.

Has anyone else noticed the similarities, physical and intellectual, between Chavez and Mussolini? Will Hugo have the same "exit scene" as Benito?

Todavia no puedo creer como los venezolanos votaron por un presidente que es un bestia. Parece bestia, habla como bestia y se comporta como tal. Bueno, mis queridos amigos venezolanos, les deseo exito en todo, pero lamentablemente con Chavez, el futuro es tan negro como el de Cuba. Buena suerte a todos!

THE IRONY!!…

In 1980, a bunch of REAL FASCIST military officers seized the Spanish Parliament and attempted a coup to reinstate the Francoist regime (which had ended only 5 years before)…The coup was foiled because one pre-eminent Spaniard stood up and made a major televised speech to the Spanish people, unequivocally declaring that democracy was not negotiable in the new Spain. Yes, of course, that man was KING JUAN CARLOS.

Chavez was elected by a majority, maybe. But the minority in Venezuela is the better educated, unfortunately. It's sad but you, all you have to do is teach these people is to hate the rich and achievers ( marxist class struggle) anmd the result is a Juan Vicente Gomez or Hugo Chavez... Amanecerá y veremos...

Spain still has dealings with its former colonies. As equals. There is history there. As an ex-colonial power, I think Spain does a better job of treating with its former colonies than Britain, and it certainly does a better job than France.

"Unelected parasite" is a harsh term for a man who returned power to the people of Spain. You fault him for being born to his mother and father, and don't recognise the personal sacrifices he and his family made to end the tyranny of Franco. He is "king" only because history makes him so. He is not "king" in the sense of "autocrat".

I'm not going to say "cállate" (shut up), but I'm not going to listen too respectfully to one who mistakes Chavez for a true Socialist, or who mocks Juan Carlos simply for his circumstance of birth. Were it not for the troubles in the other oil-producing regions of the world, his social programmes (however virtuously motivated) would have long since bankrupted the country.

They will do so yet.

He will blame outsiders. He will be mistaken.

Good forum- I'm educated by it. You all sound right!

I wish someone also told President of the Junta de Andalucía, Manuel Chaves to shut up and explain why he did nothing to stop the construction that had no building permits, Why they took are taxes and did nothing to protect us

Jason, why don't you just STFU?

For Jason, if Chaves cannot sit and converse diplomatically with the adults .... maybe he (and his fellow pinkos) deserve to shut up and sit in the kiddie table. And by the way, the conference was dubbed American-Iberian conference and held in Spain during its first session in the 80s, do the research!

I do not believe that Chavez or Juan Carlos were doing right. The only moderate and clearly democratic of the three proved to be Zapatero. As with all your comments defending one side or the other, it does not lead to anything, as I believe that very few of you would actually be able to defend Aznar's or Chavez's politics with a clear conscience.

Wolf, forgive me if my comments about the King offended you or anyone. I didn't know much about him nor should I have used that term.

However, I still feel this highlights the economic influence Spain has over her former colonies, what with the record of companies like REPSOL and Union Fenosa in Latin American countries. You cannot describe it as an equal relationship. I hope one day Latin America will be truly independent.

Now I'm not going to post here again as generally trying to scrape out intelligent answers has been like trying to get blood out of a stone. Thank-you to the few who have educated me.

jason you sound like a chavez sound bite: you lack the integrity to understand the truth or the maturity to deal with reality and your own short comings ... and your defensive posture regarding your general ignorance of these matters is not our fault ... you should be ambarassed as should chavez ... we all want a democratic and independent latin america ...

Jason, those countries became independent in 1810-1820. The influence of spanish companies was minimum until end of XX century, when Spain started to recover economically. You may want to check that Argentina had during years a much higher GDP than Spain.

Current economic influence comes from most recent history, not from 200 years ago. Italy's public energy company has bought part of Endesa (main spanish energetic group) and no one sees reminiscences of the Roman Empire tracking their old provincia.

Juan Carlos, please come and be king of Michigan. Hail to the King of Spain! A real man. A true world leader that will stand against tyranny.

Venga, Juan Carlos! Well done to tell that jerk off!

Chavez got his just reward and many of us feel good about it. Unfortunately I remember when the Queen of England told our president just about the same thing when he asked about black sheep in her family. Now I can imagine how the Chavez controlled news reported that incident.

Aznar supported the War in Iraq. 1 MILLION people are dead now for the profit of a tiny few.

Say what you want about Chavez, but he was ELECTED by his people, unlike Bush.

And Chavez hasn't invaded a country, and got 4000 of his brave young men killed for oil profits.

Where is our morality America?

His Highness did the right thing, unfortunately, the ignorance of the former Spanish colonies could never grasp the integrity of the King's comments. Chavez proves "the common" are still gosh. The people of Venezuela should be ashamed to be represented by someone so stupid.

To Noam Chomsky. Aznar supported the war in Iran with the support of 15 or 20 milones voters who habian voted at the polls. The remaining European presidents also supported this war. Poland, Italy, Portugal and so on. France did not (Why had oil interests in the area) and I can not remember the position of Germany. After that the Spanish people remove their support for Aznar by the political bug.
Chavez wants to use democracy to perpetuate its mandate in Venezuela calling an election to proclaim perpetual president. Where there is fascism?

Chaves is an ass. Just because some Hollywood idiots or a has been model visit him and prais him does not mean that he is great. Good on King Juan Carlos to tell the foul mouth to shut up. And also I don't like José Luis Rodríguez Zaptero and his oportunistic socialist policies, but I must say that I admired the way that he defended his political rival.

A king should be king first and politician later. King Juan Carlos has proven to be a True King over and over again. King Juan carlos is a true emmisary of democracy. HE IS THE MAN, KING and a TRUE LEADER. By telling chaves to SHUT UP he demonstrated what many other politicians were holding back, chaves listen the King have spoken. King Juan Carlos you are my MAN-KING

Is there any way to communicate a message of thanks to the King?

I've lived in Spain and King Juan Carlos is a gentleman.. with guts. I remember when a Lieutenant Colonel in the Guardia Civil attempted a takeover of the Spanish Parliament and the King called the big shots in the Army, Navy and Guardia Civil about his stand.... the colonel backed down.

Spanish people have many reasons to be proud of thei king. Venezuelans are now discovering what a thug their president really is.... Chavez is just enriching himself at the peoples' expense. Chavez is a mini-Castro.

chavez is the devils lap dog.
viva Juan Carlos.

Noam,
Did you know that the weekly crime related deaths in Venezuela is higher than the ones of Irak. ?

Did you know that Venezuela is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. ?

Have you seriously watch closely the moves of Chavez in Venezuela in spanish.?
What morality are you talking about ?
Sir, you are seriously mistaken.
Chavez and his followers are driving Venezuela into self destruction anarchy and corruption.
Oh and poverty is higher than when he took office despite the oil at $100 a barrel.
Sure these things are no solved overnight but almost ten years of Chavez in power should make it clear to anyone that Chavez is totally incompetent as a President.
Never mind his manners.
I'm glad that Rey Juan Carlos broke the protocol and put the Dictator Chavez in his place.

Aznar aided and abetted Bush in selling the Iraq war, millions of lives have been sacrificed, for what? Oil. Chavez offered millions of dollars to the Katrina victims, heating oil for Alaska, New York and London. What has the King done for you lately?
He has received the gratitude of people such as Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Kevin Spacey, Naomi Campbell and Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Zapatero is solely responsible for Chavez's comments. He tried to capitalize politically in defense of Aznar and to score points in his country.
Chavez is no longer a child, however, Zapatero wanted to lecture him on "Respect" and insult him, what was Zapatero trying to achieve? Whatever it may have been surely it was not part of the issues that were part of the conference. The monarchs reaction was equally out of line against established protocols set in the conference. Overall the whole incident was pathetic.

I paste an official link to Spaniards royal http://www.casareal.es/index-iden-idweb.html in english.
Paco Mer

JDO Wake up! Learn to write and express yourself with the substance of knowledge and not with the stupidity of dilatants. You as many communist minded individuals in beautiful Latin American do not have KNOWLEDGE of what is the proper mechanism of democratic government and HOW democracy could be a mechanism to EXTERMINATE POVERTY. Far-lefts are plain COMMUNIST that want to be the leaders in an egocentric manner driven by the thirst of power. Thus, Communists want to seize Power: learn history and go back to the 12th and other centuries and learn that it is already written what you and your-like tried to sell to the masses! Nothing new: Communism is synonymous with Stalinism or Totalitarianism: and that included fascisms and many other synonymous words and expressions that convey the same meaning!

Don Juan Carlos had the guts to place Chavez in the place that he belongs! Thus Don Juan Carlos unify himself with several other Great Worldwide individuals that never allowed NONSENSE such as Pres. Ronald Reagan (USA), Margaret Thatcher (England) and P.M. Howard (Australia): Real People, Administrators, Diplomats, Governors and Political individuals with GUTS that change for the better their nations socio-economically and militarily.

Jason the cadre of Chavez backers are the ones that made things happen in Venezuela. They were the political-syndicate that developed and implemented the process for the good-for-nothing of Chavez to win the Presidency: They are the CRETINS that I alluded in my early message that you misunderstood its contents and without them Chavez would never had attained the votes of the populous. The usual tactics of the far-left is to dislocate knowledge and create confusion, typical of the Communist and Nazism’s doctrines.

Viva Espana!

May King Juan Carlos enjoy good health and extremely long life.

:D

Homer,
Although is unfortunate the Iraq war and his supporters, (I was always against it myself). Why Chavez is bringing that to an IberoAmerican summit, the same song over and over again?.
Heck even Aznar is no longer prime minister.

Sometimes I think it was a mistake by Zapatero and Juan Carlos to bite the Chavez bate of hate.
Chavez craves for attention, is a narcissistic megalomaniac.

But on the other hand is good that they were courageous to be that honest and speak their minds.

I'm Venezuelan and give big thanks to Zapatero and Rey Juan Carlos for doing this embarrassing but necessary move.

My RESPECTS gentlemen. !!

I find it interesting that Fidel has broken two weeks of silence to anounce his congratulations to Hugo for "standing up" against "Europe" during the conference. Meanwhile, Spaniards gladly get their passports stamped when they arrive in Havana to pay for hotel rooms and food service that is pocketed by Fidel and only makes him stronger.Of course, the average Cuban working in the hotels and restaurants only gets a slight elevation from their dire poverty. News flash! Fidel doesnt need Spain anymore, he has made a deal with the Chinese to drill for oil in the waters surrounding Cuba. Now he thinks that he can tell Spaniards what he really thinks of them. As for Hugo, he has stolen enough fixed assets from other countries to make him a certified criminal. He will be a lesson to his neighbors on what Socialism brings. I hope I havent offended the socialist editor of this site but he is an avid left winger with huge leftward leanings on everything right down to the weather forecast. Hugo would be proud of his views.
As for Zapatero, I didnt think he had it in him. He appears to be trying to overcome the common view that he is a pacifist without scrupples. (I.E. ETA) As for the Rey. I admire, respect and would fight and die for the king. He appears the be the last man in Iberia with a fire in his belly. God bless him and his family. Oh, I forgot, the Socialists wouldnt want me to mention God.

Uno no puede creer que los paisanos de
Felicitaciones al Rey Juan Carlos! Un gran ciudadano español!Venezula podrían votar por Chávez como un mono. Esta bestia no tomará el país de Venezula por un camino de total de perder, al igual que Cuba. Usted haría bien en reconsiderar esta votación y librar a ustedes de una pequeñísima mentales como Chávez. Su socalistice viaje gratuito se colgará como un coche acabando de gas.

It's just sad to know that 63% of Venezuelan's are a bunch of undeducated idiots. Hugo Chavez supposedly fights for the less fortunate while rubbing shoulders with the "elite"...it's sad to see that no matter how much contact he has with people as smart and classy as ZAPATERO and A KING (Has he ever read a world history book? The Bourbons have been around longer than the Republic of Venezuela) has been in vain. You simply can't take the jungle out of the monkey.

Aznar is a criminal and a stooge. Chavez is just calling it like it is. Aznar supported Bush and his illegal wars despite popular opinion against it in Spain. He cynically tried to manipulate the Madrid bombings as an ETA operation. He also supported a right-wing coup government in Venezuela in 2002. The man is a Bush ass kisser of the highest order. If Zapatero or "King" Juan Carlos can't accept criticism of an ex-president of their country, that's their problem.

I'm sorry that no one seems to have recognized NOAM CHOMSKY's name and given him the respect he deserves. He is very well-known as a "linguist", which he himself has taken to mean that he's an expert on everything else in the world, especially politics. Señor Chomsky, ¿usted de veras habla español? How much have you studied about the history of Spain and Venezuela? What do you think of Hugo's plan to become "President for Life"? Is that the kind of democracy you advocate?

the communists there may be un
co-operative & not true to real communist concepts by being militarist & elitist & suedo-religious,however i think the last people who can claim a moral highground are borbon occultists who stupidly supported fascist murdering ghouls or maybe false flag terrorist ex governments,they all seem to have the same monoist/monothesist dogma behind them,a male domminated fertility occult!,so i can't see much difference between them all

Hey, John Wade! What have you been smoking, or snorting? "Monoist/monothesist...male domminated [spelling] fertility occult" ?????

What Chavez can't take is not ro be told to shut up, is that with that he lost his rank as a media star. The focus was then on Juan Carlos instead on him. Pride is the worst sin of Chavez (I am talking about sins, about crimes, you will find a lot more. Nevertheless this is quite good for Chavez, because with this misleading he changes the focus, that was before in the (fascist?) represion agains students in Venezuela.

King Juan Carlos is an ass, and he was probably drunk when he did that childish

Well, Chavez was perhaps a bit undiplomatic, but his statement was factually right: Aznar was a civil servant working under Franco, pledging lotalty to the former fascist dictator of Spain; his party the PP was founded by no-one else than the former Minister of Interior under Franco (responsible for the notorious Guardia Civil); Aznar has always defended the rule of Franco in the most vehement ways, perhaps the most notorious example was his angry attempt to block the name change of the General Franco Square in Guernica (remember that place?) into Liberty Square.
What's even more interesting is the media-hype given to his snub to Chavez during the conference. Only a few agencies, like this one, also report that Nicacaguan President Ortega criticized the role of Spain in mucking about in Latin American politics. A better headline would have been "Spanish king under fire at summit".
O yes, for those who didn't know, Juan Carlos was tutored extensively by Franco to become his successor, which may be the reason why he took Chavez' comments so personally.

Erm...

Chavez certainly overstepped the mark in diplomatic protocol but the evidence DOES point to Spain and the United States surreptitiously supporting the 2002 coup.

It doesn't make Aznar a fascist but it does rather legitimise Chavez's rant against a man who, it would seem, could have been complicit in his murder.

Rather like the Iraqi Sunnis in that disastrous first round of voting, the conservative Venezuelan establishment decided to boycott the last elections, thus giving Chavez COMPLETE control of parliament. Knowing that they would lose, did they do it so they could claim Venezuela's parliament is illegitimate? There's certainly a bit of a wiff.

We mustn't forget, for the lesson is very much rooted in the present, that there comes a tipping point in brutal regimes, after which the masses will support almost anyone who decries it. Batiste, the Romanovs, Marie Antoinette, the Shah. Those of you who don't like Lenin/Stalin, Chavez, Morales, Castro or Ahmedinejad (note: not Sarkozy) must consider what came before and our part in supporting those regimes.

Distateful as they may well be in many regards, the demonising of Chavez (and Ahmedinejad) should not be taken at face value. Only last week, Dick Cheney said of Venezuela's President that the people of Peru deserved better! I guess Lima got on the blower to DC pretty quickly.

Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter in the world. Just try and read ahead and, for the sake of ALL of us, please don't make the mistake of believing that military violence is a one way street. As I've said before, the politicians and media call it terrorism. The military call it 'asymmetrical warfare'.

Be careful what you wish for.

SR

PS That is not THE Noam Chomsky.

PPS Even a republican can concede that, as a parliamentary monarch, Juan Carlos has enough popular support to win a hypothetical referendum. I'll tell you something else for free, as a stickler for protocol, it's a good job Queen Sofía wasn't there or she'd have socked him - youtube's loss, I guess.

Blind people!
People from Venezuela! Wake up!
We know very well the sistuation in Caracas and Venezuela.
The real fascist is only one: Hugo Chavez.

This guy is really dangerous. He is the second Mussolini. For those who don't know, Mussolini belonged to the Socialist party. Through his populism, he became the head of the fascist party.....isolated economy, nationalised industries, alliances with other dictators (Hitler, does he ring a bell.....what about Castro...).

No democracy allows someone to be relected 3 times.....you cannot change electoral system and you remain in charge.

Venezuela is in his worst political moment. It is a pity that the golpe did not work.

Freedom to people of Venezuela!

VIVA CHAVEZ!

It is good to have a king!
Mi padre, I.Sidi delBurgo (quien fui canciller en Beirut), tenia costumbre de expresar su admiracion de nuestro rey. Ahora le entiendo mas.
Gracias de mostrar el camino a nuestros politicos norteamericanos demasiado indulgentes.

unfortunately,the "inconvenient truth" is in these countries, a combination of low education and poverty makes for the perfect growing ground for this kind of characters to thrive on. And people run to them as a solution to their desperation. chavez and the likes of him are 1st of all guilty of having fooled his people, and the venezueleans should realize than when Chavez insulted Spain he insulted Venezuela far worse
Good acting by the King,even better by Zapatero, though 4 sure half the peole in spain (pricesly that many) won't understand it

chaves : he can't be worst ...
King Juan Carlos : never talk w.some
ignorant,stupid,idiot,( she's a lady...) monk, like this chaves...
ciao chaves...
Machado.

What has Chavez done for his country?
Take what others worked for away for the
good of who? Nationalize everything for the good of who? What has Chavez done for his country lately besides take away the freedom of speech. offering
oil for new york is a propaganda tactic. do your homework Homer!

bravo chavez !

CONGRATULITIONS!! Don Juan CarLosS!

*[[... I LOVE SPAIN ... ]]*

Wow. There are countries that still have a King?

I thought these kind of thing were over in Europe after 1789 and only some African and Middle Eastern countries had that kind of things.

hugo chaves!!!!!!!! tu eres un maricon

Simplt put Chavez is a pure stinking arsehole!!!!!!!!!

i´m a spaniard.

I only want to say that our country voted in 1978 some laws in order to choose "Juan Carlos I" as our parliamentary monarch. He´s the King but has nothing to do with government or policy.

And even republican people (like me) are always very proud of him.

Unelected King tells leader of a country that has had more elections than any other country in the world in the last 10 years to shut up. if the king of spain was really interested in democracy and peoples right o speak he would abdicate and dissolve the monarchy. monarchys are an abomination and an insult to all people who are not monarchs and thankfully the majority of the worlds population would agree. considering the amount of blood spilled in the name of monarchs throughout history do spanish people who support monarchs wish to be called subjects and agree that they are lesser people on the basis of birthright and do they in turn consider themselves better than other people in lower stratas of society. The only king I would bow down before, though he would not permit it, is martin luther king, a man who is considered great for his words and most importantly his actions rather than accident of birth and who i am sure would be more in favour of hugo chazez, a defender of the poor and disenfranchised, than a king who is an apologist for fascist aznar.

Now the news is that that Chavez, upon whom Simon Bolivar his purported model would not even deign to spit, is threatening to use the deserved humbling inflicted by the king as an excuse to seize more property belonging to firms based in Spain.

The only reason that Venezuela hasn't dissolved into total economic chaos such as that inflicted on Zimbabwe/Rhodesia by the looter thug dictator Mugabe, is because the oil revenues in the dictator's hands have propped it up.

Even with all that revenue, reports suggest that Venezuela's economy is unraveling. Ordinary people must queue to buy milk for their children when it can be found at all. This is always the way in looter economies.

Should oil prices drop sharply, the game will be up and Chavez' time will come to a nasty end just as Mugabe's is coming to an end.

Juan Carlos will reign in Madrid long after Chavez has been toppled and disgraced even in the eyes of those who once supported him.

Chavez is a pig. He completly disrupts any situation with his ill informed and self serving crap. He is the next Sadaam. btw - we could never begin to pump enough oil in Iraq to pay for the war - war for oil propaganda is beyond stupid

Chavez was interrupting nonstop the 2 minutes speech Spanish Prime Minister Zapatero was entitled to. Zapatero, extremely polite, tried unsuccessfully to stop Hugo Chavez which never, even once, stopped talking and kept insulting the former Spanish Prime Minister Aznar. King Juan Carlos pointed at Hugo with a gesture as to saying “You should be Polite and let Zapatero finish” but Hugo Chavez ignored Zapatero and King Juan Carlos I completely. The Chilean Prime Minister, which presided the Summit did nothing to stop this nonsense that Hugo Chavez was causing, it was then that as the most Senior Leader of the Summit, and having attended ALL of the XVII of them, the King of Spain, moved forward on his chair and looking at Hugo Chavez in the face asked, “Why don’t you just Shut Up…”
Hugo Chavez never-the-less kept talking, using the full length of the time allocated to Zapatero.
Hugo has no class, never will. He has been in power for over 7 years and People in Venezuela, one of the Richest countries in the world, have to line up at supermarkets for food, the number of poor is growing, he is nationalizing all the sectors in the economy, and is giving Venezuelans money to his friends.
His friends are, Fidel Castro who has been in power for over 50 years in Cuba and has not been able to do anything else but to starve to death his people. Other Friend is Daniel Ortega Prime Minister of Nicaragua, which has been accused by his stepdaughter of rape over a period of 9 years since she was 11. He has been in power for many years and has not been able to improve his country’s standard of living. Other friend is Evo Morales in Bolivia, whose government has nationalized most of the industries, trying to emulate Cuban starving Socialism. These 3 amigos, incapable of creating any wealth for their people even when very rich in natural resources, keep blaming Capitalism, Imperialism, Colonialism and any kind of “ism” as the ills of their societies, when in reality the problem is solely their laziness, corruptions, ambitions, as they are turning their countries in an Authoritarian regime where people are so poor that are incapable of revel against them and perpetuate their own powers. So much for fear of fascist that they themselves turn in one.

Having traveled to Venezuela since 1993, I have seen a great change. For the first time I see large segments of the population driving new cars and building and buying new homes. I have literally worked thru out Venezuela.
Previously I did not see this before 2001 then slowly I begin to notice.

Lets stop a moment! Over 250 Boeing airliner jets were owned by the state oil company. Most of the monies from natural resources were going to foriegn corporations, most from the US.
I have sat in the Morichal Largo in Maturin Venezuela and listened to Spaniards speak about the boorish and backward Venezuelans. I think racism was first invented by the Spaniards.
Yes Mr. Bush along with the Spaniards using the Columbian Military Paratroopers were involved in kidnapping Mr. Chavez and attempting to depose him. Now who are these two US American weasels. Bush and Cheney, both got out of the Vietnam War, Cheney 5 times was deferred, Bush finally had to serve with the National Guard and for which he showed for duty 3 times and now these two super heroes make war on Iraq with over 160,000 civilian deaths. While most Caracas residents are the bluebloods of Venezuela and close ties to Spain critique Mr. Chavez, forgetting when they were in power the POOR were extreme while they lived in thier gated communities of which many still do. A normal person can't enter.
THere is a GOd and if Mr. Chavez is a demogogue, then it is God's vengeance on the Venezuelan bluebloods for forgetting the very poor of Venezuela while they ate in palacial homes. Perhaps this is why this godly(lie) man Mr. Bush has been given to the US. THe Lord sought occasion against an evil empire that has grown arrogant and insensitive to the hate it engenders enriching itself and pretending care for the peoples of the world.
I am ashamed I am a direct descendent of the Spaniards and I am also ashamed I citizen a country crazed in making war to enrich companies. Doesn,t scripture say: "Peace on earth onto all men of goodwill." We can be wrong, but good will is the heart God blesses, not pretending goodwill. I truly believe I am witnessing the sunset years of the United States of American! Because the bastards in office are LIARS and the media is owned by they who want them in office.

Clark Clydestone is as much as an arse hole as the person he so much admires. Communist shit hole, that is why he likes Chavez, a big headed turd.

i think it's funny that the king told chaves 2 shut up cuz he deserves that

i think the same about clark Clydestone

as an American who use to stay in Venezuela.....I am glad the King told him to shut up, i just wish Chavez would stop his stupid rants on T.V every day, he as been turning his country in to complete chaos, and those outdated beleifs he has will ruin Venezuela,
he wants to be a Dictator, he already doing away with term limits, so he wants to be Pres. forever.....

Venezuela will get worse, the Violence in the Streets will get worse, Chavez needs out of that office
atleast Bush will be out soon, and America can get back on our feet, but venezuela will be on their knees till Chavez is Gone from the politics of Venezuela

NOAM CHOMSKY
11 Nov 2007, 14:59
Aznar supported the War in Iraq. 1 MILLION people are dead now for the profit of a tiny few.

Say what you want about Chavez, but he was ELECTED by his people, unlike Bush.

And Chavez hasn't invaded a country, and got 4000 of his brave young men killed for oil profits.

Where is our morality America?



need to Travel more, you dont have a Clue about Venezuela, why dont you get
your ticket and stay for two weeks, then i would like to see what you oppinion is on Chavez , plus he was not elected either,
their was a Boycott because the people knew it was rigged,
electronic polling machines that are maintained by the Chavez Goverment....
nobody trust the Election process in Venezuela

i dont like Bush either but we know he will be gone soon enough, but Chavez doe not want to leave office ever, he has even stated that he will change term limits so he can become Pres. for ever, he is worse than Bush


theur will be more chaos in Venezuel, be and dont surprise if more nation dont get involved, and it is not about oil , it is about his distuctive behaivor,
Chavez is spewing out outdated beleifs, Chavez is a facist and a tyrant, he needs to start to lay low, with his head always in the air he will be struck, and thats what King Carlos did

it appears to me that chavez is more illegitimate than rey juan carlos. i have some random points to make...
first off, i think it's fair to make the statement that chavez is pretty much a caudillo leader.. i thought civilization and barbarism was sorted out already by a former argentinian president.. i guess not.
second, 18 months of absolute power granted by a one-sided legislature is pretty unjust.
third, how can you expect educated voting from a people who have no access to education?
parece que alguien no sabe todo los hechos, o tal vez no quiere admitirlos...
if anything, hugo chavez is as guilty as any power-stricken warrior: undiplomatic and defensive, with a touch of spite.
LOOK AT MY MUSCLES. VOTE FOR ME!

oh. and clark,
how, perchance, can you quote luke 2:14 and immediately afterwards call someone a bastard?
just a side note.

clarification: i know very well that chavez is the president of venezuela; i was referring to d.f. sarmiento of argentina. so, in reading my argument i hope noone mistakes me for a fool.

HOLA...SOY CHILENO TODOS LOS QUE VIERON ESTA PARA DE CARROS DEL REY AL HUGO CHAVES...LO HAN VISTO COMO EL GESTO DE PARTE DE SU MAJESTAD, PERO REALMENTE SERIA UN GESTO VERDADERO SI ESPAÑA RETIRARA SUS EMPRESAS DE AMERICA DEL SUR...O DE AMERICA LATINA COMO TODOS LE LLAMAN EN ESTE CONTINENTE NO SE HABLA LATIN BASTA DE LLAMARLA AMERICA LATINA, ESE RETIRO SERIA UN GRAN GESTO DEL REY DE ESPAÑA...QYE LLEVAN MAS DE 500 AÑOS Y AUN LE SIGUEN ROBANDO A ESTE CONTINENTE....TAMBIEN QUIERO APREVECHAR DE DECIRLES A LOS ESTADOS UNIDENSES...QUE DEJEN DE LLAMARCE Y CALIFICARCE CON LA NACIONALIDAD DE "AMERICANOS" , ESTOS 3 CONTINENTE SON AMERICA YO SOY DEL SUR NO ME CALIFICO COMO AMERICANO, ADEMAS CRISTOBAL COLON NI SIQUIERA LLEGO A AMERICA DEL NORTE QUE PODRIAMOS DECIR QUE POE ESE HECHO LOS GRINGOS SE DIGAN AMERICANOS, UN EJEMPLO LOS CANADIENCES, MEXICANOS BRASILEÑOS CHILENOS, ARGENTINOS, PARAGUAYOS, ETC TODOS SOMO AMERICANOS Y NO NOS CALIFICAMOS DE "AMERICANOS"...YA... ESTADOS UNIDENCES, HUBIQUENCES.
SEE YOU SOON

Patricio,
Los ciudadanos de cada pais tienen el derecho de ser llamodos como les de la gana. No hay nadie en este mundo que se confunda cuando yo les digo que soy Americano. Nadie me pregunta si lo que verdaderamente quiero decir es que soy Mejicano, Panameño o Colombiano, asi que jódate.

Moreover, a boor is a boor be it Bush or Chavez, and is it not funny that democracy is just fine for Chavez to get to power, but as soon as he is in power he wants to rewrite the Venezuelan constitution to make himself de facto ruler for life? Yes, a fine stand up, freedom loving individual with only the best intentions and concerns for his people - get your head out of your backside, ese.

Chavez is a dangerous Diktator.Why is he bying so much shit from Russia for his Army?Fill up your Supermarkets with Milk first.

what r u guys talkin about wher the bitches