I read several months ago about a restaurant owner that was fined by the
government because he refused to allow a homosexual couple to have their
reception at his establishment.
‘The essence of freedom is that everyone feels free’, he said, ‘and
the essence of democratic coexistence is that all beliefs are respected,
the essence of a deep and authentic freedom is that nobody, nobody, tries
to impose their morals or their beliefs, and that they respect others’.
The Prime Minister’s comments were greeted with loud applause.
Looks like the governement should be fined for disrespecting that mans
personal beliefs.
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Pope Benedict XVI blessing the Archbishop of Toledo, Antonio Cañizares, at the ceremony in the Vatican in March 2006 where he was made a Cardinal. Archive photo – EFE.
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It comes after a note from the Episcopal Conference advising Catholics not to vote for a party which supports negotiating with terrorists
The Spanish Bishops have responded to the adverse reaction from the governing Socialist Party to their public note issued last Thursday calling on the faithful not to vote for a party which is prepared to hold talks with terrorists, with a statement from the Bishops’ No. 2 on Sunday that they are speaking the word of Christ.
Speaking in Toledo Cathedral on Sunday, Cardinal Antonio Cañizares, the Archbishop of Toledo and Vice-President of the Spanish Episcopal Conference, said the only words the Church has to say are those of Christ. That word, he said, will never be quiet or silenced, despite all attempts of the powers in this world to do so. The Cardinal referred to the note as in no way an imposition, but as an ‘exhortation’ with no preference towards any political party, and spoke of the Church’s fundamental concerns for mankind as the basis for the note issued last week. He said it referred to the truth of the Gospel rather than to politics.
The cardinal’s words came after the Prime Minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, speaking at a PSOE rally in Orense on Friday night, said ‘the Bishops have fallen into the temptation of using terrorism,’ following the note from the Episcopal Conference.
Socialists at the rally started to boo as soon as the word ‘Bishops’ was mentioned by the Prime Minister.
‘The Bishops are in their right to call for a vote for the PP’, he said, ‘but they have fallen into the temptation of using terrorism, and we do not accept that from neither Rajoy nor the Bishops’.
Zapatero said that the citizens needed to know, before the election date of March 9, that he wanted to be Prime Minister again, to defend a country for all, a tolerant, free society where everyone can think as they wish and live in accordance with their beliefs.
‘The essence of freedom is that everyone feels free’, he said, ‘and the essence of democratic coexistence is that all beliefs are respected, the essence of a deep and authentic freedom is that nobody, nobody, tries to impose their morals or their beliefs, and that they respect others’. The Prime Minister’s comments were greeted with loud applause.
On Saturday the Spanish Ambassador to the Vatican held talks with the Vatican ‘number two’ to inform him about the Government’s ‘perplexity and surprise’ over the posture of the Spanish Bishops who have called on the faithful not to vote for the Government.
Spanish Foreign Minister, Miguel Ángel Moratinos, went as far as to describe the Spanish Church’s action as ‘reactionary, fundamentalist, and neo-Conservative’. El País headlined on Saturday that the Socialist Party was threatening to revise the relations between the Government and the Church.
Speaking to the press in the Córdoba town of Rute on Saturday, Moratinos said ‘I want to express my opinion, as a Catholic, not only as an active Socialist, and I want to express by indignation and perplexity, because I do not believe that any Catholic from the 21st century can understand it’, adding that he did not believe that the Bishops’ opinions represented the sentiments of the majority of Spanish Catholics.
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Comments
bob
04 Feb 2008, 15:49
04 Feb 2008, 15:49
Maggie
04 Feb 2008, 23:33
04 Feb 2008, 23:33
Check your facts Bob. The fine was imposed by the right-wing Partido
Popular government at Madrid City Hall, not by the government.
bob
05 Feb 2008, 23:09
05 Feb 2008, 23:09
I think not........the fine was not imposed from city hall but from a
governmental mandate called the "declaration of human rights" put in place
by the PSOE and discussed on this very site!
Maggie
06 Feb 2008, 09:05
06 Feb 2008, 09:05
The fine came from City Hall (PP) in accordance with a regional law on the
protection of consumers' rights passed by the Autonomous Community of
Madrid (PP).
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2006/12/28/madrid/1167340339.html
VICARIO
06 Feb 2008, 20:06
06 Feb 2008, 20:06
THE HOLY EARTHY GENOCIDE TRINITY OF THE BLOODTHIRSTY ORGIES AND SEX SHOPS
MAKERS AT PRISON.
The Spanish Bishops are not speaking the word of CHRIST. but they are preaching THE POWER OF FORCE that overcomes THE POWER OF LOVE. The BI SHOPS have never been existed at PRISON, but the world wide nations watched the PRISONS which were turned into SEX SHOPS, for MASACRING THE THIRD WORLD BODIES THAT DO NOT COUNT FOR CHRIST, VIOLATING FEMALE ADOLESCENTS, SODOMIZING KIDS to HONOUR CHRISTIANY DOCTRINE, WEARING UNVISIBLE CASSOCKS who they may be PROFESSIONAL PEDASTRAS. I have experienced CLERGY WABBERRANT WAYS OF THE BODY, SOUL, HEAR AND CONSIENCE IMPURITY. THE DOCUMENTS AND WITNESSES SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORKS, BASED ON THE UNREAL CALL TO SANctity, PURITY OF HEART AND BODY, HUMAN LIFE IS CONSACRED AND THE LAWS OF PRECEPTS. DON¨T YOU AGREE ? I HAVE NO PROBLEM TO SHOW YOU THAT the WAY is PEACE and MORALITY, the TRUTH is JUSTICE and the GOOD and the LIFE is that HUMAN BODY IS NOT CONSACRED with TORTURES, SODOMIZATIONS, BI SHOPS, and SEX SHOPS AT PRISON. You should know that three decards are more than enough to dishonur PRECEPTIONS, CONCEPTIONS, IDEOLOGIES AND THEOLOGIES OF CHURCH, being a member of PP, OPUS DEI and EDUCATOR OF NOBILITIES, ARISTOCRACIES, GREATNESSES AND ROYALTIES. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SEALED WITH ALL THE RUBBISH YOU STORE INTO YOUR MUZZLES TO FEED YOUR RECUITS AND SUPPORTERS WITH AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR ILEGAL AND IMMORAL ORGASMS OF WAR. DO NOT PLAY THE ROLE OF OPUSITAS DE OBUSES MUTILADORE QUE CONVIERTEN LA SANGRE DE LOS CUERPOS DESCUARTIZADOS EN AGUA PARA REGAR EL SUELO Y HONRAR EL MILAGRO DEL MAESTRO QUE SEGÚN SE DICE, CONVIRTIÓ EL AGUA EN VINO PARA ALEGRARSE EL CUERPO Y ALMA.
VICARIO : VICARIO CON EL CAMINO DE LA VERDAD Y JUSTICIA ES UN VOLCAN SIN ERUOCIÓN, POR SER EDUCADOR DE PAZ, VIRTUDES Y VALORES.
The Spanish Bishops are not speaking the word of CHRIST. but they are preaching THE POWER OF FORCE that overcomes THE POWER OF LOVE. The BI SHOPS have never been existed at PRISON, but the world wide nations watched the PRISONS which were turned into SEX SHOPS, for MASACRING THE THIRD WORLD BODIES THAT DO NOT COUNT FOR CHRIST, VIOLATING FEMALE ADOLESCENTS, SODOMIZING KIDS to HONOUR CHRISTIANY DOCTRINE, WEARING UNVISIBLE CASSOCKS who they may be PROFESSIONAL PEDASTRAS. I have experienced CLERGY WABBERRANT WAYS OF THE BODY, SOUL, HEAR AND CONSIENCE IMPURITY. THE DOCUMENTS AND WITNESSES SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORKS, BASED ON THE UNREAL CALL TO SANctity, PURITY OF HEART AND BODY, HUMAN LIFE IS CONSACRED AND THE LAWS OF PRECEPTS. DON¨T YOU AGREE ? I HAVE NO PROBLEM TO SHOW YOU THAT the WAY is PEACE and MORALITY, the TRUTH is JUSTICE and the GOOD and the LIFE is that HUMAN BODY IS NOT CONSACRED with TORTURES, SODOMIZATIONS, BI SHOPS, and SEX SHOPS AT PRISON. You should know that three decards are more than enough to dishonur PRECEPTIONS, CONCEPTIONS, IDEOLOGIES AND THEOLOGIES OF CHURCH, being a member of PP, OPUS DEI and EDUCATOR OF NOBILITIES, ARISTOCRACIES, GREATNESSES AND ROYALTIES. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SEALED WITH ALL THE RUBBISH YOU STORE INTO YOUR MUZZLES TO FEED YOUR RECUITS AND SUPPORTERS WITH AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR ILEGAL AND IMMORAL ORGASMS OF WAR. DO NOT PLAY THE ROLE OF OPUSITAS DE OBUSES MUTILADORE QUE CONVIERTEN LA SANGRE DE LOS CUERPOS DESCUARTIZADOS EN AGUA PARA REGAR EL SUELO Y HONRAR EL MILAGRO DEL MAESTRO QUE SEGÚN SE DICE, CONVIRTIÓ EL AGUA EN VINO PARA ALEGRARSE EL CUERPO Y ALMA.
VICARIO : VICARIO CON EL CAMINO DE LA VERDAD Y JUSTICIA ES UN VOLCAN SIN ERUOCIÓN, POR SER EDUCADOR DE PAZ, VIRTUDES Y VALORES.
VICARIO : EDUCADOR DE VIRTUDES .
09 Feb 2008, 22:43
09 Feb 2008, 22:43
LA SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD TERRENAL GENOCIDA DE LA ORGÍAS SANGUÍNAR DE LAS
AZORES, CARENTES DE AMORES, VALORES Y VAN SOBRADOS DE ARDORES, ENAMORADIZOS
EN LOS TESORES, DOGMÁTICOS GUERREROS, ADORADORES DE LAS SUSTRACCIONES,
DOCTOS EN LAS PROVOCACIONES, ENCUBREDORES DE SUS ATROCES, CRUZADOS
MEDIEVALES SEMBRADORES, DIVULGADORES INHUMANOS Y
SERPENTEADORES,PRESBÍTEROS CUESTIONADOS POR SUS SODOMIZACIONES, CLÉRIGOS
SE IDENTIFICAN CON LOS BI SHOPS ESTREMECEDORES, CRUENTOS OBISPOS MAESTROS Y
EDUCADORES,TRANSOFORMADORES DE LA TEOLOGÍA EN POLÍTICA PARA GANAR LAS
ELECCIONES Y SEGUIR CON LAS INVASIONES, CRUCIFICADORES DE CRISTO Y A LA VEZ
DE LAS ARCAS PÚBLICAS SON SUSTRAÍDORES, OPUSITAS Y OBUSES Y DE LAS BOMAS
DE RACIMO SEMBRADORES. LOS DOCUMENTOS SON OBRAS DE AMORES PARA DESCUBIR Y
HUMILLAR A LOS FANFARRONES, QUE PRESUMAN DE POBREZA Y DEL VATICANO SON
GOBERNADORES A BASE DE ENGAÑAR AL CRISTO EN QUE TODOS CREEMOS.
VICARIO : INSPECTOR Y REVELADOR DE VERDADES. LOS OBISPOS QUE SE DEDIQUEN A REZAR PARA QUE EL PAÍS VASCO SEA INVADIDO POR LOS AMERICANOS CON QUIENES COMULGAN Y PRETENDEN SER SUS ADORADORES.
VICARIO : INSPECTOR Y REVELADOR DE VERDADES. LOS OBISPOS QUE SE DEDIQUEN A REZAR PARA QUE EL PAÍS VASCO SEA INVADIDO POR LOS AMERICANOS CON QUIENES COMULGAN Y PRETENDEN SER SUS ADORADORES.
VICARIO : PEACE COMES OUT JUSTICE.
09 Feb 2008, 23:42
09 Feb 2008, 23:42
THE HOLY EARTHY GENOCIDE TRINITY OF THE BLOODTHIRTY ORGIES AT LAS AZORES.
l. What does the President of the FACIST RIGHT WING or the OPUSEDIST GRAFTE mean at comparing the PRISENT OF GOVERNMENT, MR. ZAPATERO, AS A THIRLD WORLD LEADER ?
2. Have you ever heard or read that an INTELLECTUAL EXPERT who is a VICAR of the MALICE or the VICAR of his NAZIFASCIST RIGHT WING, bark at the PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT, MR ZAPATERO, "ANTI ZIONIST OR ANTI ZIONISM".
3. Do you believe that ECCLESIATICAL AUTHORITIES in ROME receive BLACK MONEY and the same time the ones who wear INVISIBLE CASSOCKS and loof forward to being FUTURE SAINTS, invade the PUBLIC TREASURY at all FIELDS ?
4. Have you ever read or had a letter from an EX EMBASSADOR AT AMMAN to his MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, CONCERING POLITICAL, DIPLOMATICAL, STATE, PATRIOTICAL, RACIAL, IMMORA TERRORISM?
VICARIRIO : SUPPORTING OF CARMEN ARÍSTEGUI and DETESTING THE MACROPHIC AND THE MACRO CHRISTIAN ZIONIST, GUSTAVO ARÍSTEGUI. CHEER UP CARMEN; TRUTH COMES OUT OF MORALITY AND CHARITY AND IT WILL GET YOU RID OF THE MALICE MAKERS.
l. What does the President of the FACIST RIGHT WING or the OPUSEDIST GRAFTE mean at comparing the PRISENT OF GOVERNMENT, MR. ZAPATERO, AS A THIRLD WORLD LEADER ?
2. Have you ever heard or read that an INTELLECTUAL EXPERT who is a VICAR of the MALICE or the VICAR of his NAZIFASCIST RIGHT WING, bark at the PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT, MR ZAPATERO, "ANTI ZIONIST OR ANTI ZIONISM".
3. Do you believe that ECCLESIATICAL AUTHORITIES in ROME receive BLACK MONEY and the same time the ones who wear INVISIBLE CASSOCKS and loof forward to being FUTURE SAINTS, invade the PUBLIC TREASURY at all FIELDS ?
4. Have you ever read or had a letter from an EX EMBASSADOR AT AMMAN to his MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, CONCERING POLITICAL, DIPLOMATICAL, STATE, PATRIOTICAL, RACIAL, IMMORA TERRORISM?
VICARIRIO : SUPPORTING OF CARMEN ARÍSTEGUI and DETESTING THE MACROPHIC AND THE MACRO CHRISTIAN ZIONIST, GUSTAVO ARÍSTEGUI. CHEER UP CARMEN; TRUTH COMES OUT OF MORALITY AND CHARITY AND IT WILL GET YOU RID OF THE MALICE MAKERS.
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