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By h.b. - Feb 5, 2008 - 7:37 PM
• Andalucian high court postpones Marbella demolitions - Mar 18, 2008 - 8:30 AM
• Lanzarote dubbed the new Marbella as 22 illegal hotel complexes face demolition - Mar 17, 2008 - 2:32 PM
The entrance to Marbella, with one of the illegal buildings, Banana Beach, in the background - Photo EFE
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Typically Spanish Editor, Howard Brereton, tackles the thorny subject of the illegal homes and their possible demolition which are now making their way into the British press
EDITORIAL COMMENT
With the story in the Daily Telegraph this week of three more British couples who fear their retirement homes in Turre, Almería could be demolished, it is easier than ever for the British Press to pass negative headlines and comment. The new case is slightly different from others to make the headlines in Vera, Chiclana, Marbella and other places, as it appears that the people concerned purchased land, with a licence to build, but that it was already earmarked some four months beforehand to be used for the construction of a new AVE high speed rail link. Now the compulsory purchase orders are reportedly on the way.
There is a general feeling among both the general public and the local town halls now having to face up to putting their municipalities in order, that those who purchased in good faith should not be penalised. However, as the Mayor of Mijas, Antonio Sánchez,(PSOE) pointed out last week, in some cases the building has been so blatant, in areas of outstanding natural beauty for example, that not all the property can be saved.
Consider too the case of the Los Monteros Urbanisation in Marbella, where the lawyer who is representing the community of owners, Inmaculada Gálvez, claims that the local Town Hall decided deliberately to ignore court orders to demolish. Here the people who purchased in good faith and completely legally have seen their sea-views removed or other inconvenience from the illegal property, and so immediately the case becomes more complicated. They want the demolitions to take place.
Many commentators say it’s a case of the Junta de Andalucia against Marbella Town Hall, and that the Junta is to blame for doing nothing for 15 years. That is not, in fact, correct. The Junta issued official complaints over more than 560 licences in the town over the period of the GIL administration, but in the end the only way demolition can happen is firstly, if a decision comes from the Andalucian High Court of Justice, and secondly, that decision is enforced locally.
The Mayor of Marbella, Ángeles Muñoz,(PP) may well have tried to put off some ordered demolitions, and now the Andalucian High Court has agreed and ruled that none should take place until the new PGOU Urban Plan is in place, and realistically that will not be for a couple of years.
In fact, if all this mess is to be put in order across the country, there needs to be firstly greater agility in the drawing up of the new PGOU regulations inline with the POT territorial plans. Perhaps a new specialised judicial office should be established to speed up any appeals that are made against the cases of demolition that do have to be ordered, and that such an office could serve also to speed up the compensation payments?
It would be nice to think that this was an opportunity for corrupt Mayors, lawyers, real estate promoters, and builders to be brought to justice, but without some sort of new body supervising procedures and taking each case one by one, that is unlikely to be the outcome. Tricks of builders claiming bankruptcy and so on should not be permitted, and if the law has to be changed to better protect the innocent, even retrospectively, then so be it.
At first glance many may think this all sounds very idealistic and expensive, but if this matter is not handled correctly and efficiently, stories like those seen recently in the British press will be ever more common, and the recession brewing in the Spanish real estate industry could well prove far deeper, and also have negative knock-on effects to the all-important tourism numbers. And that would see an even higher price being paid by Spain. The Government really needs to act at a national level and now.
The British press need to understand that the whole problem has arisen because of bad law. Laws which meant that a quick building licence often represented quick and needed income for the local Town Hall, and that it is not part of some part of a sinister anti-British or anti-foreigner campaign.
There are many Spaniards who are in just the same position, but of course, what is often true is that they are generally more accustomed to possible legal pitfalls, while the foreigner has been seen to have a greater and blinder faith in the legal advice and licences given.
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• Andalucian high court postpones Marbella demolitions - Mar 18, 2008 - 8:30 AM
• Lanzarote dubbed the new Marbella as 22 illegal hotel complexes face demolition - Mar 17, 2008 - 2:32 PM
• Locals fight against coastal development in Villaricos, Almería province - Feb 24, 2008 - 10:14 PM
• Mijas Mayor accuses local PP of using the irregular housing problem for political ends - Feb 18, 2008 - 8:31 PM
• Another British couple in Almería fear their home is to be demolished - Feb 5, 2008 - 12:45 PM
• Demolition starts of Estepona illegal hotel - Feb 4, 2008 - 7:27 PM
• Town Hall promises to help owners faced by demolition in Mijas - Jan 29, 2008 - 6:27 PM
• Expats protest retirement home demolition in Vera - Jan 28, 2008 - 6:33 PM
• Expats call protest in Vera against recent house demolition - Jan 23, 2008 - 6:18 PM
• British couple watch on as their illegal house is demolished in Almería - Jan 11, 2008 - 8:25 AM
Comments
Pops
05 Feb 2008, 20:39
05 Feb 2008, 20:39
In Marbella, at least, the solution is obvious and can be done tomorrow.
The government should liquidate Sr. Roca’s entire worth, and that of
every other politician/developer/builder connected with the mess, and
distribute said fortune among those now threatened with demolition orders.
Given a fair price for their illegal property, I’m sure a good many of
those affected would gladly take the money and run for the airport as fast
as they could, never again to return to this lawless state. The properties
could then be demolished, Roca and his cronies could take to begging in the
street (once they get out of jail), and this lawless state might just begin
to get some good press.
Paul
05 Feb 2008, 23:11
05 Feb 2008, 23:11
Pops is absolutely correct.Here in Chiclana,Urbanismo are NOW at last
trying to do the right thing.The problem as we have been informed by them,
is that this is after 20 years of the Town Hall and those in Authority
turning a blind eye and looking the other way and holding out their hand
and everything is in one holy mess .And now where we are it is going to
cost us and others 73,000 Euros each to be Urbanised AND MADE Legal. All,
when we purchased the property we were told by the estate agent AND LAWYER
everything was LEGAL and rightly or wrongly assumed the vast amount of cash
he was charging us was to do the same searches and work a solicitor would
do in the UK NOT JUST SIT ON HIS ARSE AND DO NOTHING which is apparently
what he did do. Where the Notario figures in all of this trickery I don't
know but again I assume he gets his percentage along with wveryone else to
keep the wheels oiled.If it was just us who were complaining fair enough
but you're talking about thousands of people caught in a systematic fraud.
Exasperated and very Angry
05 Feb 2008, 23:14
05 Feb 2008, 23:14
Pops is right, many would probably like the compo and head for home, tired
and worn down by this cruel and disgusting debacle.
Alternatively, all homes bought "legally", now deemed "illegal" should be given immunity. Future developments re thought and any deposits on them already paid by the victims should be refunded if the plans are subsequently cancelled. Only then will Spain be seen to have any integrity rather than a 3rd world nation.
How do those responsible live with themselves?
Alternatively, all homes bought "legally", now deemed "illegal" should be given immunity. Future developments re thought and any deposits on them already paid by the victims should be refunded if the plans are subsequently cancelled. Only then will Spain be seen to have any integrity rather than a 3rd world nation.
How do those responsible live with themselves?
Ed
08 Feb 2008, 15:34
08 Feb 2008, 15:34
It would appear that the the spanish people have elected a morally bereft
government, a government which seems to turn a blind eye to corrupt
polititians, solicitors, property developers, and real estate agents. I am
of course refering to the property market fiasco.Peoples lives are being
ruined, the injustices being perpetrated must stop, and victims suitably
compensated,otherwise Spain will become a pariah nation. The economic
downturn has already begun,and the US economy cannot be totally blamed.
robert
11 Feb 2008, 18:08
11 Feb 2008, 18:08
I stand to lose close to £60000 due to the complete and utter incompetence
and blatant lying of almost every person involved in the purchase of our
property. The apartment will never be completed as the builder basically
thought that he could ride roughshod over what laws there are in Spain. It
also seems that many of the laws are only applied retrospectively and that
the impact this has on purchasers who have behaved with complete integrity
is not even taken into consideration. Quite frankly, the dream has turned
into a nightmare and now I am throwing more money at the problem in the
hope that something can be salvaged from this debacle. Further TV
programmes are going to come out in the UK highlighting yet more
injusticies in Spain in the property market and that will inevitably lead
to further difficulties in the property market in Spain. It will be a long
time before other Europeans return.
ed
12 Feb 2008, 23:30
12 Feb 2008, 23:30
I am sure that most of you have heard,there going to spend 100 million Euro
revitalising the Costa del sol as a tourist destination. Is this taking the
piss or what.
jimbo
23 Feb 2008, 17:11
23 Feb 2008, 17:11
HELLO ALL IM SO SAD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LOSE THERE HOMES AS
I WAS IN THE ALICANTI AREA AT THE TIME AND WAS LOOKING TO RETIRE IN SPAIN
BY THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR 2008 BUT AS THE HOUSING MARKETS ARE LOOKING
BAD IN THE UK FOR SELLING AND THE POUND HAS FALLEN AGAINST THE EURO THE
COST OF BUYING A HOME HAS BECOME NOT SO ATTRACTIVE AS WELL AS WITH ALL THE
EXTRA TROUBLE OF HAVING A LEGAL HOUSE OR FLAT SUDDENLY BECOMING ILLEGAL AND
GETTING KNOCKED DOWN.IT SEEM'S BEST TO WAIT BY THE WAY THERE HAS BEEN AND
STILL IS A WARNING NOT TO BUY IN SPAIN FROM MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES
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