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Some of the expatriates affected in Spain have been talking to Euro MP's in Brussels over the past two days, and an Austrian Euro MP has now called for all European funding to the Valencia region to be frozen
Expatriates whose Spanish homes have been demolished or who have seen their land seized under the so-called ‘land grab’ laws in the Valencia region, have been telling their stories over the past two days to a committee of MEP’s in Brussels.
Thousands of British, German and Dutch citizens have been forced to hand over part of their land or property or to pay for new infrastructure as new housing schemes have been created in the Valencia region.
British Labour M.P. Michael Cashman, who was in Spain gathering information on the matter last year, says he will take the matter onto the European Court of Human Rights if he has to.
Mr Cashman said, ‘They were assured that deeds to their property were legal as advised by local lawyers, developers and officials. Now because of a combination of corruption and interpretation of new property laws, these people are facing ruin. Homes will either be demolished or people are now being asked to pay even more money for water and electricity supplies, which they were assured their property would receive.’
Mr Cashman said that the problem is acute in the Valencia area, but has also been seen in Andalucía, parts of Murcia and on the Canary Islands.
The laws which led to this process were introduced by the Valencia regional government in 1994, and amended in 2005, but promises from the government to scrap them and compensate the victims have not been met.
Cashman and the MEP’s are expected to call on the European Commission to step in.
‘Though the Commission may not have a direct role in the internal land laws in Spain, the fact of the matter is that people’s fundamental rights are being trampled over’, said Mr. Cashman.
He’s calling for a moratorium on any more decisions under the law and a halt to any further demolitions of peoples homes.
Michael Cashman’s concerns have been echoed by the British Euro MP’s Neil Parish and Robert Atkins, with the latter saying it was simply unacceptable for people to lose their homes, lose their money, and lose their savings.
Austrian Socialist Euro MP, Herbert Bösch, is calling for all European aid to be blocked to the Valencia region until they resolve the ‘town planning abuse’, and he has also launched a message advising people not to make any sort of investment in the region.
Already the Constructors' association in the Valencia region has dismissed the calls for the moratorium, saying that more building should be taking place to reactivate the economy in Valencia, and underlining what they consider to be the independence of the Valencian regional parliament.
Spanish Euro MP for the Partido Popular, José Manuel García Margallo, has commented that he feels sorry for those affected, but 'the European Union has no responsibility for town planning and these are questions which have to be resolved in Spain'.
Meanwhile Brussels is reported to be considering drawing up a new report on town planning abuses in the Valencia region.
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Comments
Pops
03 Apr 2008, 17:54
03 Apr 2008, 17:54
Talk is cheap, and, as Euro MP Cristina Gutierrez Cortines of the Partido
Popular said, it gets your photograph into the newspapers. So, Mr Cashman,
now that you've got your photograph into the newspapers yet again, why
don't you stop threatening to do something, and actually do something?
Ron
04 Apr 2008, 10:05
04 Apr 2008, 10:05
I agree with "Pops". Words by all politicians are cheap, actions require
more guts. This situation has to be sorted out, Spain has got to get into
the present century on these sort of matters. No-one will ever trust the
counrty again else, and with the housing market going down, Spain will be
the 1st to suffer.
Er_Guiri
04 Apr 2008, 11:26
04 Apr 2008, 11:26
As long as the PP are still in power in Valencia, nothing will get done.
Most of the land owners vote PP.
But, expats are in part to blame for their stupidity and naïvety in beliving everything that the "natives" have told them. In the UK you ask your lawyer if it's alright to buy a certain house; in Spain it's down to the Notary: if he says it's alright, and it's not, then HE'S at fault, not your lawyer! The expats got sucked into this because they thought they were getting a good bargain, but thanks to unscrupulous real estate agents, it's screwed up the spanish economy!
But, expats are in part to blame for their stupidity and naïvety in beliving everything that the "natives" have told them. In the UK you ask your lawyer if it's alright to buy a certain house; in Spain it's down to the Notary: if he says it's alright, and it's not, then HE'S at fault, not your lawyer! The expats got sucked into this because they thought they were getting a good bargain, but thanks to unscrupulous real estate agents, it's screwed up the spanish economy!
J myers
04 Apr 2008, 12:47
04 Apr 2008, 12:47
Dont forget us in Andalucia, who are threatened with demolition. Mr cashman
emailed me back, saying that he only had limited funds, dont we all Mr.
Cashman.
Peoples health and mental state can be affected by such stress. We dont hear much from Spain regarding all the problems. Many expats are going home, we have had enough. Spain has shot itself in the foot.
Peoples health and mental state can be affected by such stress. We dont hear much from Spain regarding all the problems. Many expats are going home, we have had enough. Spain has shot itself in the foot.
Irene
04 Apr 2008, 18:37
04 Apr 2008, 18:37
I resent the comments by El_ Guiri saying ex-pats are stupid and naive. On
the contrary, ex-pats expected the same level of integrity and honesty from
the professionals in Spain as they would expect and receive in the UK. You
really can't mask the problems by blaming the victims. I have never heard
of so many dodgy lawyers anywhere as there are in Spain. As members of the
EU in western Europe it really is time the Spanish the cleaned up their
act.
act.
Pepa
04 Apr 2008, 20:31
04 Apr 2008, 20:31
Pops is right. Spain needs to clean up its act and get with the EU
program. No more excuses...
Patrick
04 Apr 2008, 22:28
04 Apr 2008, 22:28
Irene is right to resent the comments made by "El Guiri" as I do also.There
isn't a lawyer in the village/town of Chiclana who could lie straight in
bed,male or female.The only "mistake" that an ex-pat makes isn't
necessarily being naive and certainly isn't being stupid as Guiri
insultingly puts it, it is being trusting and simply expecting the same
level of service and honesty from a professional person in a so-called
Modern European Country that you have a right to expect,after all you're
not in the jungle of Papua New Guinea and if you were you would probably
meet more honest people! Certainly you can draw a line on a map across the
whole of Andalucia and you would be hard pushed to find an area that hasn't
been affected by planning corruption. Add to that of course Valencias
specific
problems which this "Land Grab Law" is affecting and being used by the Valencia Town Hall against even local Spanish citizens.A large number of
properties which have been in the
hands of the same families for many
generations are being compulsorily
purchased for a pittance to make way
for blocks of flats.
problems which this "Land Grab Law" is affecting and being used by the Valencia Town Hall against even local Spanish citizens.A large number of
properties which have been in the
hands of the same families for many
generations are being compulsorily
purchased for a pittance to make way
for blocks of flats.
john
05 Apr 2008, 11:58
05 Apr 2008, 11:58
Another point of publishing things without foundation just to look good and
for attention seeking purposes, there is no Land Grab in the Canary
Islands..
And why talk without action plans another point of talk is cheap justifying a fat salary and expense account.
And why talk without action plans another point of talk is cheap justifying a fat salary and expense account.
Jackie
05 Apr 2008, 14:41
05 Apr 2008, 14:41
As far as I am concerned once you have been to the Notary and paid all your
taxes then the land and house should belong to you. If the Spanish
Government have accepted the taxes everything should be legal - if not is
the Spanish Government taking money under false pretences? I have also
been trying to find out what is legal and what is not. i have comne to the
conclusion nobody knows exactly.
Len
05 Apr 2008, 17:44
05 Apr 2008, 17:44
I bet the land grab laws here would change if someone tried to demolish
the Present Spanish Prime Minister·s house!
steve cole
06 Apr 2008, 17:49
06 Apr 2008, 17:49
You can fool some of the people some of the time - Then you get found out.
If you want to sell in a competitive world it has to be done honestly or you go under. No body now trusts the Spanish property purchase system. The Spanish building industry is on its knees. That coupled with the fact idiot bankers have lost all the spare cash on sub prime mortgages. Who in their right mind is going to by a home in Spain now? Er_Guiri, the stupid ones are those who have just slaughtered the goose that has laid the golden eggs. RIP Spains Housing industry
If you want to sell in a competitive world it has to be done honestly or you go under. No body now trusts the Spanish property purchase system. The Spanish building industry is on its knees. That coupled with the fact idiot bankers have lost all the spare cash on sub prime mortgages. Who in their right mind is going to by a home in Spain now? Er_Guiri, the stupid ones are those who have just slaughtered the goose that has laid the golden eggs. RIP Spains Housing industry
Er_Guiri
07 Apr 2008, 11:30
07 Apr 2008, 11:30
Steve, i agree completely with you. Everyone (and i mean everyone) has been
at fault here. I've lived in Spain for 20 years, and i saw what happened in
'93. Everyone has been greedy in this, and i would just like everyone else
here to explain what THEY think is the CORRECT way a European country sould
act: like Italy? Germany? Poland? Anyone ever tried buying a house in
France? Or do we want the rest of the would to follow good old fashioned
british values? Patrick, if you want to buy a house in Papua New Guinea by
all means go ahead and do so, and lets see how long it is until english
real estate agents open up shop there! Viva Estates anyone?
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