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• Financing Your Spanish Property Purchase - Apr 2, 2007 - 7:29 PM
If you buy a property with any kind of shared facilities, such as a pool, gardens, private roads, there will be a comunidad de propietarios and you will automatically become a member
In Spain, unless you are buying a detached property or a rural finca there is every chance you will come across a comunidad de propietarios. This is the name given to the organisation comprised of all the owners who have an interest in the complex or development and whose task it is to manage and look after the building and the facilities that your property enjoys along with other properties in the same development. If you buy a property that has any kind of shared facilities such as a pool, gardens, private roads (even the external walls of an apartment block), there will be such a community and you will automatically become a member as you will own proportional share of these areas and facilities.
While you may not relish the thought of annual general meetings with Presidents and treasurers and having to abide by rules and regulations made by the committee, it is actually a very useful and democratic means of managing a complex or development and can even provide a lot of useful information to you before you purchase the property.
The Ley de Propiedad Horizontal or Horizontal Property Law governs such communities and it sets out exactly what is required and how the cost of maintenance and repairs are to be divided among the owners. The first document you should look for before you purchase is the community’s master deed or titulo constitutivo. This will describe each property that forms part of the complex as well as all the facilities shared by the community. It will state what proportion of the cost is allocated to your individual property and to every other property in the community. These costs are decided by reference to the size of the property and any desirable features that may demand a premium. The master deed will also contain the community Statutes estatutos de la Comunidad which govern how the community will be run in addition to the or interior rules normas de regimen interior which govern the more mundane aspects of living in the community day to day.
When you purchase a property in a community it is essential to ensure, as far as possible, that there are no major repairs likely to be needed in the near future. While new properties will have a guarantee from the developer, older properties will not and the cost will have to be met by the residents. After the expense of purchasing the property you would not like to find that you have to contribute to substantial repairs to an area that is not in the immediate vicinity to your own property and that was not mentioned to you by the agent! One way to avoid this type of problem and perhaps find others would be to ask to look at the libro de actas which is a record of the minutes of the meetings of the committee. From this you should be able to see what problems and concerns the residents have raised with the committee of the comunidad de propietarios at meetings.
When you purchase a property your solicitor will need to obtain a certificate from the President of the community showing the status of your property’s account; if there are any arrears owing to the community from the seller, you will be liable for them up to a maximum of two years. Apart from having the legal authority to collect the community fees, the President also has the power to commence legal proceedings against owners who are in arrears and the courts have established an accelerated procedure to deal with such claims. Sanctions for non-payment can include an embargo being placed on the Inscription of the property at the land registry to prevent a sale and the ultimate sanction is that the property may be seized and sold at public auction!
Decisions about the management of the community are usually made by a simple majority vote, although any change to the Statutes will require the unanimous approval of all owners. Often attendance at the annual general meeting can be a lively affair, with several different nationalities of owners trying to get their point of view across, or asking for improvements to the facilities that they feel would be of benefit As with any democracy, you have a say in the outcome of the meeting. The ability to challenge decisions is limited to those that are considered to be illegal, contrary to the community statutes or in the event that the decision has such an effect as to seriously damage the owners interests in his property. In these cases the owner can apply to the court for such decisions to be annulled. However, this right to challenge decisions is forfeited if the owner is in arrears with his community fees.
As with all aspects of your property purchase, ensure that your solicitor fully explains how the Horizontal Property Law affects your particular property and development. Make sure that you understand what the implications may be for your intended use of the property and that you understand what will be expected from you.
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• Financing Your Spanish Property Purchase - Apr 2, 2007 - 7:29 PM
Comments
C. Maciver
26 Mar 2008, 10:15
26 Mar 2008, 10:15
Please can u e mail me any information you may have with regards to voting
under horizontal law??? our developer who is also our president owns many
homes on our community and thus says he has 1 vote per home owned, this
seems most undemocratic especially as he does not live in the country and
no one has voted for him. he votes himself in. Warmest Regards Caroline
John Leaker
28 Apr 2008, 18:44
28 Apr 2008, 18:44
I live on an urbanisation covered by the Horizontal Law. My property is
the ground floor of a two storey block. When I moved in I did not have an
upstairs neighbour and to receive a television signal I had an arial
erected on the wall of the upstairs solarium. When the property became
occupied the ownwer had no problem with the arial. The property has now
been re-sold and the new owner wants my arial removed. The community is
now on a community arial and nearly all has gone on to it. Due to the age
of my receiver it is not compatible with the communial arial. To replace
the receiver will cost me 170Euro. Am I within my rights to have the arial
on the wall of upstairs solarium as I was under the impression that by
Spanish law I am entitled to receive a television signal. My neighbour has
threatened to take my arial down. Any suggestions please.
Mike Riggs
02 May 2008, 22:10
02 May 2008, 22:10
We own an apartment and cannot attend meetings. We get communications from
the president and administrator but everything is in Spanish.
Are we entitled to get English translations under the "horizontal laws"?
Regards
Mike and Julie
Are we entitled to get English translations under the "horizontal laws"?
Regards
Mike and Julie
ALAN CAMPBELL
03 May 2008, 19:01
03 May 2008, 19:01
living near estepona on an urbanisation using horizontal law, it annoys me
that many owners, some renting all year round, do not pay their maintenance
regularly, but their tenants still use the facilities to the full.
apart from taking them to court, is there any internal thing we can do, legally to bring them in line.
apart from taking them to court, is there any internal thing we can do, legally to bring them in line.
Katy Macpherson
20 May 2008, 22:13
20 May 2008, 22:13
I own a villa in Spain as a holiday home and on occassion have rented it
out to friends and family.
I have recently discovered that an EGM was held in November last year where the urbanization voted on rules that apply only to owners who rent their villa's out.
This includes a charge of 200 euros if the renters make noise which is deemed to be excessive by the other residents.
Whilst I can totally appreciate the other residents like things quiet, I was under the impression this set of rules that apply only to rental owners is illegal under Spanish dicrimination laws.
Does anyone have any further information on this?
I have recently discovered that an EGM was held in November last year where the urbanization voted on rules that apply only to owners who rent their villa's out.
This includes a charge of 200 euros if the renters make noise which is deemed to be excessive by the other residents.
Whilst I can totally appreciate the other residents like things quiet, I was under the impression this set of rules that apply only to rental owners is illegal under Spanish dicrimination laws.
Does anyone have any further information on this?
Lynda Palmer Wilkinson
16 Jun 2008, 23:57
16 Jun 2008, 23:57
I am President of a block in an urbanization with 9 other blocks. My block
has 45 apartments.
I was asked by many to call an Extraordinary meeting. This was to add to the grills surrounding the front steps gates with locks and to higher the hand rails to prevent un wanted callers - and youths taking drugs and using the lift and generally making a nuisence of themselves. This has caused distress to many of the owners. To enclose the lift and front steps is solely for security and safety. It would hardly change the status of the block at all - it would just keep un wanted people out. A key would be given to all.
We had 1 person send a proxy vote against with out knowing what the proposal is, so we are told that Yes we have the majority vote, but just 1 vote against means we cannot do it.
What I need to know is this correct to say that just 1 vote against over rules the majority vote.
I was asked by many to call an Extraordinary meeting. This was to add to the grills surrounding the front steps gates with locks and to higher the hand rails to prevent un wanted callers - and youths taking drugs and using the lift and generally making a nuisence of themselves. This has caused distress to many of the owners. To enclose the lift and front steps is solely for security and safety. It would hardly change the status of the block at all - it would just keep un wanted people out. A key would be given to all.
We had 1 person send a proxy vote against with out knowing what the proposal is, so we are told that Yes we have the majority vote, but just 1 vote against means we cannot do it.
What I need to know is this correct to say that just 1 vote against over rules the majority vote.
Brian Smirthwaite
17 Jun 2008, 23:35
17 Jun 2008, 23:35
This correct you need ALL the votes to complete your new installation, I
have a Spanish owner who now has two front doors, because one neighbor says
he will not agree
M.A.MILLER
11 Jul 2008, 14:57
11 Jul 2008, 14:57
two questions, sory.
1/ is it required under spanish law that a president of a community must hold residencia?
2/. is it correct that the owners of property cannot attend an A.G.M. OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY and only the A.G.M of the individual blocks that make up that community, and have to accept that the individual block presidents can hold a meeting behind closed coors as it were?
if so how can this be described as democratic and how am I to know if my views were ever discussed,
Many thanks M.A.MILLER
1/ is it required under spanish law that a president of a community must hold residencia?
2/. is it correct that the owners of property cannot attend an A.G.M. OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY and only the A.G.M of the individual blocks that make up that community, and have to accept that the individual block presidents can hold a meeting behind closed coors as it were?
if so how can this be described as democratic and how am I to know if my views were ever discussed,
Many thanks M.A.MILLER
Phil Hodges
30 Jul 2008, 21:31
30 Jul 2008, 21:31
We purchased a detached villa in 2003 . It was registered as a 3 bedroom
villa but the owners at the time had converted their underbuild and
installed a pool on their property . I have just had the plans passed for
the underbuild and the pool by the local Town Council . I then went to the
Notary to register my additions , and was told it could not be registered
as their was a ' Community of Owners ' on our Escitura , who had to pass
our additions before it could be carried out . I am confussed , as the
Local Council , should not have passed our plans if they should of gone
before a Community . So is their a 'Community of Owners'. I spoke to all
the other residents in our road ( total of 15 individual detached villas
)about the 'Community of Owners'. They said their has never been one , and
there is nothing 'Communial' that we have . There is no pool , building
,road, lighting , in fact nothing 'Communial '. The local Town Council
cleans our road ( once a year i think ) the lights we have are powered via
the local Town Council . In the 8 years people have been living here no one
has known about a 'Community of Owners ' . I need to register my additions
as this will increase the value of my property , so I can re-finance our
villa . Does anyone know of a good Legal Team that could help me .
with kind regards ,
Phil Hodges .
with kind regards ,
Phil Hodges .
phil hodges
30 Jul 2008, 21:34
30 Jul 2008, 21:34
Your help would be nice .
mike bateson
10 Aug 2008, 12:08
10 Aug 2008, 12:08
OUR COMMUNITY POOL IS OPEN FROM 10AM TO 10PM Some owners are swimming in it
at all hours in the morning .Is this allowed .I have been told that its
against Spanish law , is this correct?
With regards
Mike Bateson
With regards
Mike Bateson
Brian Fielder
01 Sep 2008, 23:09
01 Sep 2008, 23:09
We own a detached villa on a 502 Square meter plot. There are 36 houses in
our road, our side is on a community the opposite side isn´t. When I asked
why we are in community I was told because the villas opposite are on large
plots,i.e. over 500 square meters. The other properties 34 out of 36 are
all situated on plots around 230 Square meters. We have the use of 2
communal pools which we have never used as we own our own pool. We pay
approximately 100% more for our community fees based on our plot size. we
purchased the house off plan, the community was set up by the developer
without any consultation of the residents, I have proposed the community
fees are equalised at our AGM. This received a majority vote in favour, but
not unanimous, therefore rejected.
Can we elect to leave the community, forfit the use of the community facilities and release ourselves from the obligation? If so, do we need to get a unanimous verdict from the residents on being able to leave the Community? Is the size of our plot relevent? (i.e. over 500 Square meters)
What is the legal process to leave the community?
Can we elect to leave the community, forfit the use of the community facilities and release ourselves from the obligation? If so, do we need to get a unanimous verdict from the residents on being able to leave the Community? Is the size of our plot relevent? (i.e. over 500 Square meters)
What is the legal process to leave the community?
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